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America leads the world with its charitable contributions (as Ray's chart indicates), and yet Naumann and his ilk continue to spew the myth that we're greedy and stingy. America's refusal to sign Kyoto is another reason to brand us as evil, yet the countries who have signed on have not only managed not to reduce their greenhouse emissions, but have actually increased them:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/13/europe/EU_FEA_GEN_Sweden_Carbon_Cutters_II.php

And why are not countries like India and China, both greatly increasing their fuel consumption, not criticized for their lack of participation in Kyoto? (Not that I am convinced of the dangers of the "global warming" phenomenon; there is research to the contrary that is conveniently ignored by the chattering classes.)

Straw men indeed. The only thing we don't give a damn about is the "good opinion" of the European elitists like Naumann who enjoy using America as its punching bag. It's a lot easier to demonize America than it is to look critically at the problems of one's own country. Problems like sky-high taxes, an unemployment rate hovering around 10% (http://www.destatis.de/indicators/e/arb210ae.htm), and an increasingly belligerent Muslim population that refuses to assimilate.

Germany went from being an overly aggressive country to one that is afraid of its own shadow. If blaming America can make Naumann and his friends feel better, then more power to them. Ludicrous falsehoods that pander to an anti-American audience? Was sonst?

Ray D. rocks! Great job!

http://www.sudanreeves.org/News-article-sid-7-mode-thread-order-0-thold-0.html

Maybe Herr Naumann would be interested in taking a look at the the above inked map and explain to us the UN votes of Austria, Sweden, France, Malaysia and China regarding genocide in Darfur. Does anyone suppose that the German media would actually have the guts to write a story about the collusion between European and Sundanese governments in allowing the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of people so that oil flows freely to Europe and China? Thought not.

Let us count our blessings. As long as loopy Euro-goofs like Michael Naumann feel compelled to write vile screeds against America while simultaneously feeling secure enough to actually publish them, we can take comfort in the fact that America is still free enough enough to incite the rage of "wanna-be" tyrants, and strong enough to mock them.

So let Mr. Naumann vent like a stripper who didn't get a tip; America IS the Ideal.

Another excellent article. Thanks for your all your work.

The funny thing is that blogs like DMK are now often the only place where I read about such obvious anti-american articles in the German MSM - because I don't care what they write and say anymore. And I will most certainly not pay a single Euro for their crap.

Ray, doesn't it worry you that - unlike during the beginning days of DMK which I've been frequenting - there's hardly even any debate left? That the same old people make the same old comments? That those few people who actually bother to politely disagree and try to make some counterpoints are shouted down by lynch mobs? That the Anti-German and Anti-European screeching here has become every bit as extreme as the Anti-American screeching this site promised to themazize?

I do agree that there's alot of Anti-Americanism in German MSM which can and should be addressed. But this highly emotional way of doing it hurts your goal, which was education, wasn't it? Instead what we're have had here, especially over the course of the last year, reeks of pandering of the extreme nationalist right.

Lately, I've only been sporadically visiting your pages, because the percentage of vitriol has simply exceeded any sane limit. I invite you to do some soul-seeking what your real goal is - showing the other side of the extreme, or rather trying to make a fair counterpoint to MSM reporting. The results of the American midterms might be a good opportunity to do so, for BOTH sides.

(And lo and behold - look at this for example: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,447760,00.html)

Re: Mentar's comments...

I must say, I can't see the connection here. Ray D. has just taken the time and effort to systematically address a particular case of anti-American bias -- with a careful, fact-filled rebuttal. These posts do not write themselves. I don't know how much time Ray spent composing this, but I for one am grateful for his work. It is a public service for both sides of the Atlantic.

Great post, Ray and David! I am so disappointed that Germany has so many Naumänner. Where are the great thinkers?

@ Mentar,

That is interesting. SPIEGEL ONLINE writes an article (mildly) criticizing Bush bashing and the twisting of the truth for the first time in eons (after publishing dozens of covers at Der Spiegel smearing Bush and America over the past six years and after publishing dozens of articles that clearly twist and misrepresent the truth) and we are all supposed to take heart at that?

Furthermore, I really can't agree with your assessment of this site, although you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Calling us names and making wild accusations (lynch mobs?...extreme nationalist right?) without citing a single example is hardly convincing and is really just reflective of the vitriol you claim to oppose. As you can see in the posting above, we have listed numerous facts to counter the obvious mistruths propagated in German media and expressed our honest opinion on the matter. That is what this site is about and that is what this site will remain about until we see comprehensive change.

@ Mentar:

BTW: Doesn't Naumann's work bother you? It is being read by hundreds-of-thousands, if not millions of Germans. If you want vitriol, hatred, and a general lack of debate regarding the United States, just take a close look at the German media.

Thanks Ray for your time and effort. It is very appreciated.


As being probably part of the "lynch mob" that mentar is talking about, I would like to say a few things. I do this because people like mentar have no right to smear DMK as being a "lynch mob".

A few threads ago a very articulate German (I guess) commenter, Stagger Lee, blamed DMK for grossly exaggerating the anti-Americanism of the German media. Nothing new so far, this accusation has been made countless times by now.

However, the difference is that this time DMK had posted, thanks to RayD, a few points from interviews with German MSM journalists, on the subject of German MSM bias. None of those journalists are from obscure publications, all of them are from respectable MSM outlets. It doesn't get more mainstream than that. Those journalists, especially one of them, Eberhard Piltz from ZDF, were speaking about bias, "ideology", "intellectual arrogance", "socialist dreams", censorship and so on.

I asked Stagger to read the words of those MSM journalists before making accusations against MSM. He came back saying basically "what's so special?". I was quite surprised; I assumed he didn't have time to read it all so I asked him again to read what those journalists said, especially Eberhard Piltz. He came back the second time saying that there is nothing special in there; Stagger claimed that Eberhard Piltz is basically speaking about "sensationalism" in German MSM!

At that point I switched from the camp of the debaters to the camp of the "lynch mob". Stagger Lee was blatantly lying about what Eberhard Piltz said. He was simply lying! There is no way around that. Because he didn't like what those journalists were saying, this DMK commenter was being totally dishonest.

mentar, when you see something like this you give that person the benefit of the doubt the first time. After all, the Internet is an imperfect tool of communication. The second time around though, if the person is being even more dishonest, you say it as it is. I told Stagger that he is dishonest, that he is a liar. I will say this to every single person who will behave like Stagger Lee in the future.

Someone like Stagger is not worthy debating with, since his side of the debate is based on lies. Had Stagger acknowledged Piltz's words, the debate would have continued in a combative but polite way. I have full understanding for opposing opinions, I have absolutely no understanding for liers and deceivers.

@Mentar

Politely disagreeing is one thing--holding on to opinions and beliefs(biases and stereotypes?) that have repeatedly been shown to be based on half-truths and lies, is another. I believe in honest debate, as long as the debate is honest. Many, but not all, that come here to "politely" disagree have nothing more to offer than a litany of anti-Bush/anti-American talking points and slogans--and, at the same time, they are immune to any facts presented during the debate. These visitors to DMK are not interested in being educated. Well, this tends to end the debate, and politeness, quickly. On the other hand, I think it's clear that opinions expressed in comments section of this blog, are not necessarily a reflection of the opinions of the authors of this blog. Therefore, I don't understand why an intellectually honest visitor to this blog should shy away from a--sometimes--heated debate. I don't think packing the truth in soft, warm, fuzzy cottonballs brings us any further to accomplishing the goal of DMK. Just my view.

Thanks for the link. However, one paragraph stands out from the rest for me. It seems to be a caveat:

"Es liegt der Regierung von George W. Bush nicht allzu fern, die Fakten ein wenig zu beugen, um sie den eigenen Interessen anzupassen. Unter Bush wurden Klimaschutz-Berichte verändert, Informations-Webseiten zensiert und sogar der Uno-Sicherheitsrat mit Falschinformationen über angeblich im Irak lagernde Massenvernichtungswaffen getäuscht. Für die Gegner der derzeitigen US-Regierung ist es deshalb relativ einfach, mit neuen Anschuldigungen über weitere Mogeleien Gehör zu finden."

My attempt at a translation (I hope I have not changed the meaning of the paragraph):

It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that the Administration of George W. Bush bends the facts a little in order to adapt them to its own interests. Under Bush, environmental protection reports have been altered, information websites have been censored, and the UN Security Council was deceived with false information about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Therefore, it is relatively easy for the opponents of the present US Administration to find new accusations about further misdeeds.

The beef of the article seems to be that it's not right to manipulate videos with the purpose of damaging the reputation of the Administration...BUT, the Administration is also to blame, because their own lies and manipulation of the facts have made the other side's propaganda more plausible. Well, that's just it! Those "lies and manipulations", perpetrated by the evil Bush administration, are offered by the author as hard facts. Are they? Are the accusations missing important context that might influence the opinion of the reader?

Dear Mr. Naumann,

The Center for Global Prosperity, from the Hudson Institute published its first Index of Global Philanthropy PDF formatted document in 2006, which contained updated numbers from those stated above. The total of US private giving, since Adelman’s previous report, had increased to a massive $71 billion for the year of 2004. Page 16 of their report breaks it down 2004 giving as follows:

* International giving by US foundations: $3.4 billion
* Charitable giving by US businesses: $4.9 billion
* American NGOs: $9.7
* Religious overseas ministries: $4.5
* US colleges scholarships to foreign students: $1.7 billion
* Personal remittances from the US to developing countries: $47 billion.

http://gpr.hudson.org/files/publications/GlobalPhilanthropy.pdf

Yours,
Evil materialistic hegemon, Carl.

"Therefore, it is relatively easy for the opponents of the present US Administration to find new accusations about further misdeeds."

Hmm... instead of the word "find", would "create" or "invent" been a better translation?

@ Mentar

I can't see how this article could be called "emotional". What I read are opinions of the German MSM, confronted with facts. I know, the truth sometimes hurts some of my fellow Germans who think our media as neutral and superior and like to see its anti-American rantings as "facts". But maybe instead of questioning the sanity of this blog's authors you could give us a few examples where their statements would be wrong.

Mentar's is a typical ad hominem attack, accusing commenters of being intolerant because they react negatively to German media propaganda; thus, anyone who disagrees with him is unreasonable. Moreover, he is wrong to assert that this blog is one-sided; both sides have in fact been presented in this blog, but there simply isn't much positive about the U.S. at any level of the German media.

That said, he does have a minor point when it comes to "anti-Americanism", because that is not really the correct term. I spent twenty years in Germany and can't honestly remember a single occasion on which I felt maltreated or discriminated against simply because I was an American. True, I occasionally ran into people who felt compelled to rant to me about American policies, but they seldom cared to discuss the subject with me a second time (No, I was not rude, I just won the argument). While there has indeed long been some latent anti-Americanism throughout Europe, some of it serious and some of it rather comic (like a few academics I have known, who would eat at a greasy little Schnellimbiss, but wouldn't set a foot in "McDoodle's"), most Germans seem to like Americans and have no compunctions about vacationing or studying in America -- or about eating at McDonald's.

Much of what we see in the German media is a reaction to American sovereignty. Central Europeans have indicated some willingness to surrender much of their sovereignty to the EU and UN, both of which are heavily influenced by the Euro-Left. Yeah, the fine people in the UN offices in Geneva talk openly about a "world government" -- I have seen them doing it. This is why we have recently seen a few articles in the European press indicating that American-European relations may improve now that the Democrats have a little political power in Washington again; the Euro-Leftists believe correctly that Democrats are more likely to cede the rights of Americans to the EU and UN.

As long as Americans insist on running their own lives, the Leftists in Germany will continue to vent their frustrated totalitarian impulses in obscene articles, programs, lectures and documentaries denigrating America. I guess you could call that a kind of "anti-Americanism", but I believe it deserves a different name, though I don't know what.


@ Mentar,

I won't comment about the comment section here.

Ray D's post is certainly much less emotional than many other posts. Besides, everything is substantiated. And Ray D is criticizing the editor of Die Zeit rather than just someone writing for SPON for the hundredth time.

I have criticized Medienkritik often, but I have recommended this post in my blog: Naumann: Bush "does not give a damn" about "the dying of millions of children in Africa".

@ Mentar,

I won't comment about the comment section here.

Ray D's post is certainly much less emotional than many other posts. Besides, everything is substantiated. And Ray D is criticizing the editor of Die Zeit rather than just someone writing for SPON for the hundredth time.

I have criticized Medienkritik often, but I have recommended this post in my blog: Naumann: Bush "does not give a damn" about "the dying of millions of children in Africa".

It would seem that Mentar does not enjoy the fruits of what he and his nation have been busy sowing these last 10 years.

Mr. Mentar this is commonly called “blowback”. Get use to it. Learn to embrace it and enjoy it just like you expect Americans too.

America's debt "has been cut dramatically"?

When did that happen?? Did I miss something?


@ unhinged,

You are right. I should have written deficit and not debt. Thanks for pointing that out. I have made the correction.

Ray

These people will only be happy on the day the US gives all of itself and as a result of it is sunk in poverty and misery. On that day they will be happy, because then the US will be in no position to serve as an example to all those nations that are still suffering today because of bad political ideologies!

A little OT:

Here we go. It was to be expected. Open season on Rumsfeld and others. One head will not satisfy the left.

Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse

A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the outgoing Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo

Read the whole thing:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

> You are right. I should have written deficit and not debt. Thanks for pointing that out. I have made the correction.

Naja, also so wie es jetzt dasteht hat man den Eindruck, dass Dir der Unterschied zwischen trade und budget deficit nicht ganz klar ist (Beide zusammen werden gerne als "double deficit" bezeichnet).

http://www.merkfund.com/merk-perspective/glossary/double-deficit.html

"While both of these deficits have implications on the Dollar, they have distinct sources and implications."

Die Gesamtverschuldung der öffentlichen Hand, von der Naumann spricht, hängt mit dem Haushaltsdefizit zusammen. Dein Link verweist auf einen Artikel über das Handelsdefizit.

@James W: I'd like to see David or Ray do a post about this, so I have a better understanding of what is going on. As I understand it, one of the "other officials" they seek to prosecute is the sitting U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzalez. Putting aside for the moment the general immorality of this whole thing: Gonzalez holds the equivalent of a minister-level position in a European government. As such, if Germany were to attempt to actually prosecute this, it would seem to me that such would constitute an act of war against the U.S. Has Merkel had anything to say about this?

BTW, Ray and David: Your Day by Day link is broken.

Cousin Dave,
I haven't been able to find anything about it in the German media. The author of one German blog is asking why they have to hear about this from Time and not from the German media. Good question. You would think something this big would be all over. Strange indeed.

Here's a theory: The Dems, now feeling their oats, have turned down the help of their European counterparts. The German prosecutor was going to do the dirty work...if the Dems didn't make the expected gains in the election. IMO, the timing of all this is just a bit too convenient. You think the American left doesn't work together with its international brethren?

Or, perhaps Merkel has stepped in and put and end to it--not wishing to put any more strain on the trans-atlantic relationship. Why follow through? The Dems won...right?

Found it! But nothing about a position taken by Merkel. I'll keep looking.

In one case, they claim that Rumsfeld had direct influence on the "mishandling" of a prisoner. They say they can prove it. Yeah...sure.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/nachrichten/rumsfeld-karlsruhe/80566.asp

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