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There is absolutely no way anybody here will ever "get it" until the day that something blows up here. And in a way, it's unrealistic of us to expect them (the Germans) to be otherwise. Americans were no different before 9/11, they didn't think something like that could happen, and then of course it did. If (when?) it does happen here, all hell will break loose and we will later envy them for their efficiency in pro-active, anti-terror measures.

clarsonimus, look at the example that their neighbors present to them. England loses citizens to a terrorist action and the police start checking in with muslims before they initiate raids. Spain doesn't pretend that they have a spine, they go dhimmi full bore to the extent that cities start cancelling centuries old celebrations because they might offend. And all the while they are being offended and smiling about it. Can you imagine the ostracism that Germany will have to endure if they do stand up to the threat?

WOT is phony.

Terrorists are not dumb. They have goals. They are like politicians, with other means.
Terrorism in Germany is dumb. Because what could they achieve?

Maybe the governing politicians in germany would try to stay calm at first after a serious terrorist strike. The people would not. They would be furious towards anyone looking muslim, and the politicians would not be able to withstand such a movement for long. There is a simple reason for this: If they stayed calm, they would fuel the current fascist movement.

But rather than starting invasions in foreign countries like the americans did, they would first turn our own country into a real police state.
Internationally, it would make our country a very uncomfortable one, so it might poison the diplomatical climate.

Just look like germany treats refugees from africa today - there would be no reason to treat muslims differently then.

@Dave
But rather than starting invasions in foreign countries like the americans did, they would first turn our own country into a real police state.

From where I'm sitting, you're well on your way as it is.

It's called the EU

derigon: "WOT is phony.

Terrorists are not dumb. They have goals. They are like politicians, with other means.
Terrorism in Germany is dumb. Because what could they achieve?"

Whether or not terrorists are "dumb" is debatable. Look at how they screwed up on 9/11... 75,000 people worked in the WTC towers, but most of them weren't due at work until 9am or later. They hit too early... that was why the original death estimates were so high when only 25,000 people were safely evacuated.

An addendum:

Yes, terrorists have a goal. That goal is to establish a world-wide caliphite.

They are already hard at work in France and the UK to overthrow the local governments one "outraged crowd" incident at a time.

The UK is in Iraq, but France is not.

So there is a DIFFERENT common denominator there. What it is?

Answer: They're both in Europe and both have large Muslim populations. And they're both well on their way to dimmitude.

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