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It will remain limited as long as they can "halte den Ball flach" (keep the ball low on the playing field). In other words, they still believe that it can't happen here. I have a feeling they're right, too.

who would've said "it" could happen in madrid, of all places? it can happen anywhere. except austria.

"madrid, of all places"? Madrid has been rather used to terrorist attacks, more so than many other European cities.

Flux, I think you are missing the point. It's nuanced, I know, but nonetheless, none of the people discussed above were suspected of being involved in "domestic" terrorism -- which is basically what Spain's ETA problem is. As far as I know, the ETA does not generally export terrorism.

Scott, no need to be smug. My point was that people in Madrid have lived with terrorism for decades. And of course Madrid was one of the main al Qaida targets, what with Spain being part of the coalition of the willing. In retrospect, it's not that surprising that they picked Madrid and London, or is it? Be that as it may, I don't think any European country is safe from radical muslim attacks. Wouldn't be surprised if something happened in Germany, or Austria for that matter.

If something like 9/11 happened in Berlin or Vienna, I guess all hell would break lose. Mosques would burn, everyone suspicious would be chased out of the country if not caught in time be the relatives of those who got killed by the terrorist strike. And the muslim world would lose one of their last neutral partners.

Why create a problem in what amounts to a safe area for logistical support and planning. That would make no sense.

flux, you did miss the point. i was, of course, referring to international islamic terrorism and not the ETA. And "of course" they were a target simply because of they're being part of the coalition of the willing? Well guess who else is part of that coalition: Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.

That wouldn't make the event of a large-scale terrorist attack any less shocking, as it were, and to be sure, I'd say most europeans did not expect Madrid to be a target, nor would they expect Poland or Latvia to be targets.

i would be surprised, but not shocked if germany was attacked, for several reasons, not the least of which being that germany's domestic intelligence service is pretty good, if a lot more intrusive than, say, the nsa's overblown wire-tapping program.

nothing will ever happen in austria - see joe's comment above. sad but true.


I am well aware of the fact that other countries are part of the coalition of the willing. All I am saying is that I don't see how Madrid was more surprising a target than any other city. Different kinds of attacks have happened there before, and there's a long, troubled Muslim history in Spain (which used to be a Muslim country). I wasn't too surprised "it" hit Madrid.


What makes you think all hell would break lose? What happened in Madrid or London after the attacks? Why would the reaction be different in Germany?


in contrast to spain or england, foreigners are treated with suspicion here in general, especially those from such an entirely different culture like the muslims. And at the point at which this suspicion becomes reality, all patience comes to an end.

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