Joe N. of No Pasaran just posted two interesting pieces on the French auto-body count and the American view of "Francifada":
Oh yeah, still no nasty or sensational magazine covers from Der Spiegel or Stern on the entire situation...wonder why?
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- "In much of Europe's public debate, the true meaning of human rights has degenerated into a tool that gives anti-Americanism an aura of legitimacy. The real, horrendous human-rights violations in the Middle East, North Korea, China, Cuba, etc., are largely ignored or relegated to news blurs on the back pages. For front-page coverage, you need an American angle." ---The Wall Street Journal
- "I discovered that European social democracy, too, was a kind of fundamentalism, rigid and doctrinaire, yielding what Swedish writer Johan Norberg calls "one-idea states"—nations where an echo chamber of insular elites calls the shots, where monochrome media daily reiterate statist mantras and shut out contrarian views, and where teachers and professors systematically misrepresent the U.S. (millions of Europeans believe that free public schools, unemployment insurance, and pensions are unknown in America). The more I saw of the European elites' chronic distrust of the public, and the public's habitual deference to those elites, the fonder I grew of the nasty, ridiculous rough-and-tumble of American democracy..." ---Bruce Bawer
- "In the European media as well as on the public stage, prizes and publicity go overwhelmingly to Americans who serve as witnesses against their own government and nation. (...) The defense mechanism is simple enough: "After all, they are saying this, too, so how can we be accused of anti-Americanism?" A similar phenomenon attaches itself to Israel, where "post-" or anti-Zionist spokesmen are given top billing in the European media." ---Josef Joffe
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- "The protests against nuclear weapons, for instance, concentrated on American weapons. The anti-war rallies were against American-led wars. The anti death penalty campaign focused on Texas. A pattern was emerging and has never seriously been altered. A pattern of willingness to condemn America for the tiniest indiscretion - or to magnify those indiscretions - while leaving the murderers, dictators, and thieves who run other nations oddly untouched." ---Justin Webb
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- "In five years there will be a different President and Iraq will likely be pacified. That would naturally have impacts on the strength of the resentments that have fixed themselves onto certain individuals in the present situation. But beneath the surface smolder the long-burning embers of latent anti-Americanism. It has a long tradition and will remain, also when President Bush is no longer in office and Palestine is peaceful." ---Lutz Erbring
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Yes that is very revealing and there is another graph besides it I have on my website along with a jpg map of France showing the areas of conflict found it buried deep in ¡No Pasaràn! commments I have it up and emailed Erik telling him about it.
France in Flames
Posted by: Dan Kauffman | November 09, 2005 at 06:53 AM
SOmething has been noted about these riots, where's the news helicopters covering this?
Posted by: grlzjustwant2havefun | November 09, 2005 at 07:46 AM
http://jewishworldreview.com/1105/pipes2005_11_08.php3
Posted by: Alexandru Voicu | November 09, 2005 at 08:01 AM
28.000 Autos wurden seit Jahresbeginn angezündet! Deutsche Medien waren mit "Wichtigerem" beschäftigt: wie Bush guckt, läuft, steht, ob er jemanden als böse bezeichnet etc. Alles hat medialen Aufschrei verursacht, so daß die "Lappalie" von 28.000 Autos nicht berichtet werden konnte.
"Krawalle in Frankreich lassen deutlich nach
Auch in Straßburg gingen Wagen in Flammen auf.
Paris (dpa) - In der 13. Krawallnacht in Folge hat die Zahl der Brandstiftungen in den französischen Vorstädten deutlich abgenommen. Die Zeitung »Le Monde« zitierte unterdessen Polizeistatistiken, denen zufolge schon vor Ausbruch der Unruhen die Gewalt in den von Einwandererfamilien bewohnten Sozialsiedlungen zum Alltag gehörte. So seien seit Jahresbeginn bereits 28 000 Autos und 17 500 Müllcontainer in Flammen aufgegangen, ohne dass dies Schlagzeilen gemacht hätte. In mehr als 3800 Fällen sei die Polizei angegriffen worden.
09.11.2005 dpa"
Posted by: Gabi | November 09, 2005 at 08:46 AM
Yes, I too am waiting to see "France's Shame" on the cover of Der Spiegel.
Who wants to bet against me that this will never appear on the cover?
Posted by: LouMinatti | November 09, 2005 at 02:17 PM
@Lou: Certainly not me.
Posted by: Scout | November 09, 2005 at 04:28 PM
The rioters couldn't care less about the curfew and the supposed show of strength of French officials. This thing will gradually slow down only when the rioters run out of enthusiasm. The officials will then declare victory and hope that financing some sort of cultural centers will bribe the mob into silence.
Nobody will ever talk about the complete incapacity and failure of the French system to absorb immigrants from different cultures and religions. The real root causes will be ignored, while the blame will be laid at the doors of the job market, who somehow wasn't able to make immigrants happy. Nobody will wonder why it is that those people didn't find their place in the job market. Bottom line is, now that the ice was broken, the chances for a rerun in the future are high.
Posted by: WhatDoIKnow | November 09, 2005 at 04:32 PM
@Lou: me neither (BTW, what would we do without you?)
@WhatDoIKnow
>>Nobody will ever talk about the complete incapacity and failure of the French system to absorb immigrants from different cultures and religions
Sir/Madam, if I may -
The failure of the French 'system' is not a failure of a 'system', which I will no longer put in scare-quotes. The French system cannot provide jobs for for its natives. The Wall Street Journal last week noted a blog by a 32-yr-old French woman with 2 advanced degrees who has been unable to find work outside the confines of an 'internship'. She blogs as 'Katy' (I have not been able to find it but can't read French anyway). She notes the her internships don't qualify her for unemployment payments. Apparently, a national strike by 'interns' has been called for Nov 14, but given the chaos in France right now, who knows?
The problem with the French is and always has been, elitism. They themselves intrinsically recognize it by trying to legally structure their polity as 'equal'. Well, 'scuse me, but that's like trying to legislate morality.
The French are snobs and they love being snobs. Without it, they wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind. The discussion about whether the riots are rooted in racism, poverty, religion, blah, blah, can wait for another day. The problem is not the French system.
The problem is the French.
Posted by: Pamela | November 09, 2005 at 06:27 PM
The problem is the French.
LOL
You're right, Pamela, of course. The French system is the creation of the French people. It wasn't imposed on them from outside. The French famously said: "revolution eats its children", but haven't learned much from that. Now their system started feeding on its own children.
The system can't change dramatically as long as the general attitude doesn't change. The system will be patched, but not significantly improved. It's ultimately not the system, but the people behind the system. Same thing applies to Germany.
One thing I always loved about Americans is the flexibility and willingness to change and improve. I believe Americans are best equipped to deal with challenges. It's never easy, but it's always doable.
Posted by: WhatDoIKnow | November 09, 2005 at 07:27 PM
@Lou -
Who wants to bet against me that this will never appear on the cover?
Can I make a negative wager?
Posted by: Doug | November 10, 2005 at 05:12 PM
"Dassier said. 'Journalism is not simply a matter of switching on the cameras and letting them roll. You have to think about what you're broadcasting.'"
Jean-Claude Dassier, the director-general of the rolling news service LCI, effectively admitted censoring his own broadcasts of the riots. Speaking at a conference in Amsterdam, he said the prominence given to the rioters on international news networks had been 'excessive'.
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1641376,00.html
Posted by: Gabi | November 13, 2005 at 04:07 PM
French Media Using Less Rioting Footage By ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer
Sat Nov 12, 3:50 PM ET
Unrest wracking France for more than two weeks presents a tough challenge to French media.
At least two television stations scaled back broadcasting images of flaming vehicles — a mainstay of coverage — to avoid stoking violence. Some channels decided not to provide daily police figures on the number of cars burned overnight, in the thousands since troubles began Oct. 27.
Is it self-censorship? Or a sense of responsibility?
Television stations that are holding back deny any influence from police, who insist publicity for the riots has fueled "copycat" violence. Instead, the stations say they don't want to play into the hands of rampaging youths seeking coverage of what they see as their exploits.
LCI, an all-news television channel, decided a week ago to stop showing images of burning cars — nightly fare on all stations at the start of the violence.
"A burning car is extremely impressive," said LCI weekend editor Laurent Drezner, adding that the channel continues to show the hulks of burned-out cars. "We are informing without sensationalism."
The station concluded that fiery images provoked a "serial effect."
TFI, the most widely viewed station, also started withholding images of burning cars and buildings, news director Robert Namias told the daily Le Monde. No one could be immediately reached at the station for comment.
State-run channel France-3, meanwhile, is not reporting daily police figures of vehicles set afire.
Deputy director Jacques Bayle said the station does not consider such numbers an accurate barometer of the violence, which also has ravaged schools, warehouses and public buildings — figures not made public by police.
Such figures lead to a "restrictive vision" of the violence and incite troublemakers "to try to beat the record like in a sports match," Bayle said.
In early November, as the unrest entered its second week, the Foreign Ministry complained foreign media were hyping the unrest. And some French citizens blame both national and foreign press coverage for the spread of violence.
The press feeds "the challenge between the housing projects," said Julien Rodier, 22, a student from Marseille attending a peace demonstration Friday in Paris.
"The difficulty is the dosage," Namias, the TF1 information director, was quoted as saying by the daily Le Parisien. "Our rule of thumb: Say everything without necessarily showing everything."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051112/ap_on_re_eu/france_media_curbed_fr1_2;_ylt=Ag23H76RwpR.Nbbed4SNXEXgelIB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Posted by: Gabi | November 13, 2005 at 05:52 PM
Wolfgang Schäuble, a conservative member of Parliament slated to be Germany's interior minister, concurred. "The conditions in France are different from the ones we have," he said. "We don't have these gigantic high-rise projects that they have on the edges of French cities." NYT
To Prof. Dr. Dr. (Hon.) Schäuble we must ask:
1) What is the percentage of Turkish police officers vs. total Turkish population in Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, and Koeln?
2) What is the percentage of Turkish soldiers in the Wehrmacht vs. total Turkish population?
3) What is the percentage of Turkish officers in the Wehrmacht vs. total Turkish population?
4) What is the percentage of Turkish university students vs. total Turkish population?
5) How many Turkish members of the Bundestag are there?
What a joke. Turks are completely excluded from German society. So what if they don't live in highrises. Germany doesn't have highrises. Anywhere.
Posted by: Ecomplex | November 14, 2005 at 07:37 AM