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Yes that is very revealing and there is another graph besides it I have on my website along with a jpg map of France showing the areas of conflict found it buried deep in ¡No Pasaràn! commments I have it up and emailed Erik telling him about it.
France in Flames

SOmething has been noted about these riots, where's the news helicopters covering this?


28.000 Autos wurden seit Jahresbeginn angezündet! Deutsche Medien waren mit "Wichtigerem" beschäftigt: wie Bush guckt, läuft, steht, ob er jemanden als böse bezeichnet etc. Alles hat medialen Aufschrei verursacht, so daß die "Lappalie" von 28.000 Autos nicht berichtet werden konnte.

"Krawalle in Frankreich lassen deutlich nach
Auch in Straßburg gingen Wagen in Flammen auf.

Paris (dpa) - In der 13. Krawallnacht in Folge hat die Zahl der Brandstiftungen in den französischen Vorstädten deutlich abgenommen. Die Zeitung »Le Monde« zitierte unterdessen Polizeistatistiken, denen zufolge schon vor Ausbruch der Unruhen die Gewalt in den von Einwandererfamilien bewohnten Sozialsiedlungen zum Alltag gehörte. So seien seit Jahresbeginn bereits 28 000 Autos und 17 500 Müllcontainer in Flammen aufgegangen, ohne dass dies Schlagzeilen gemacht hätte. In mehr als 3800 Fällen sei die Polizei angegriffen worden.

09.11.2005 dpa"

Yes, I too am waiting to see "France's Shame" on the cover of Der Spiegel.

Who wants to bet against me that this will never appear on the cover?

@Lou: Certainly not me.

The rioters couldn't care less about the curfew and the supposed show of strength of French officials. This thing will gradually slow down only when the rioters run out of enthusiasm. The officials will then declare victory and hope that financing some sort of cultural centers will bribe the mob into silence.
Nobody will ever talk about the complete incapacity and failure of the French system to absorb immigrants from different cultures and religions. The real root causes will be ignored, while the blame will be laid at the doors of the job market, who somehow wasn't able to make immigrants happy. Nobody will wonder why it is that those people didn't find their place in the job market. Bottom line is, now that the ice was broken, the chances for a rerun in the future are high.

@Lou: me neither (BTW, what would we do without you?)

>>Nobody will ever talk about the complete incapacity and failure of the French system to absorb immigrants from different cultures and religions

Sir/Madam, if I may -

The failure of the French 'system' is not a failure of a 'system', which I will no longer put in scare-quotes. The French system cannot provide jobs for for its natives. The Wall Street Journal last week noted a blog by a 32-yr-old French woman with 2 advanced degrees who has been unable to find work outside the confines of an 'internship'. She blogs as 'Katy' (I have not been able to find it but can't read French anyway). She notes the her internships don't qualify her for unemployment payments. Apparently, a national strike by 'interns' has been called for Nov 14, but given the chaos in France right now, who knows?

The problem with the French is and always has been, elitism. They themselves intrinsically recognize it by trying to legally structure their polity as 'equal'. Well, 'scuse me, but that's like trying to legislate morality.

The French are snobs and they love being snobs. Without it, they wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind. The discussion about whether the riots are rooted in racism, poverty, religion, blah, blah, can wait for another day. The problem is not the French system.

The problem is the French.

The problem is the French.


You're right, Pamela, of course. The French system is the creation of the French people. It wasn't imposed on them from outside. The French famously said: "revolution eats its children", but haven't learned much from that. Now their system started feeding on its own children.

The system can't change dramatically as long as the general attitude doesn't change. The system will be patched, but not significantly improved. It's ultimately not the system, but the people behind the system. Same thing applies to Germany.

One thing I always loved about Americans is the flexibility and willingness to change and improve. I believe Americans are best equipped to deal with challenges. It's never easy, but it's always doable.

@Lou -
Who wants to bet against me that this will never appear on the cover?

Can I make a negative wager?

"Dassier said. 'Journalism is not simply a matter of switching on the cameras and letting them roll. You have to think about what you're broadcasting.'"

Jean-Claude Dassier, the director-general of the rolling news service LCI, effectively admitted censoring his own broadcasts of the riots. Speaking at a conference in Amsterdam, he said the prominence given to the rioters on international news networks had been 'excessive'.


French Media Using Less Rioting Footage By ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer
Sat Nov 12, 3:50 PM ET

Unrest wracking France for more than two weeks presents a tough challenge to French media.

At least two television stations scaled back broadcasting images of flaming vehicles — a mainstay of coverage — to avoid stoking violence. Some channels decided not to provide daily police figures on the number of cars burned overnight, in the thousands since troubles began Oct. 27.

Is it self-censorship? Or a sense of responsibility?

Television stations that are holding back deny any influence from police, who insist publicity for the riots has fueled "copycat" violence. Instead, the stations say they don't want to play into the hands of rampaging youths seeking coverage of what they see as their exploits.

LCI, an all-news television channel, decided a week ago to stop showing images of burning cars — nightly fare on all stations at the start of the violence.

"A burning car is extremely impressive," said LCI weekend editor Laurent Drezner, adding that the channel continues to show the hulks of burned-out cars. "We are informing without sensationalism."

The station concluded that fiery images provoked a "serial effect."

TFI, the most widely viewed station, also started withholding images of burning cars and buildings, news director Robert Namias told the daily Le Monde. No one could be immediately reached at the station for comment.

State-run channel France-3, meanwhile, is not reporting daily police figures of vehicles set afire.

Deputy director Jacques Bayle said the station does not consider such numbers an accurate barometer of the violence, which also has ravaged schools, warehouses and public buildings — figures not made public by police.

Such figures lead to a "restrictive vision" of the violence and incite troublemakers "to try to beat the record like in a sports match," Bayle said.

In early November, as the unrest entered its second week, the Foreign Ministry complained foreign media were hyping the unrest. And some French citizens blame both national and foreign press coverage for the spread of violence.

The press feeds "the challenge between the housing projects," said Julien Rodier, 22, a student from Marseille attending a peace demonstration Friday in Paris.

"The difficulty is the dosage," Namias, the TF1 information director, was quoted as saying by the daily Le Parisien. "Our rule of thumb: Say everything without necessarily showing everything."


Wolfgang Schäuble, a conservative member of Parliament slated to be Germany's interior minister, concurred. "The conditions in France are different from the ones we have," he said. "We don't have these gigantic high-rise projects that they have on the edges of French cities." NYT

To Prof. Dr. Dr. (Hon.) Schäuble we must ask:

1) What is the percentage of Turkish police officers vs. total Turkish population in Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, and Koeln?
2) What is the percentage of Turkish soldiers in the Wehrmacht vs. total Turkish population?
3) What is the percentage of Turkish officers in the Wehrmacht vs. total Turkish population?
4) What is the percentage of Turkish university students vs. total Turkish population?
5) How many Turkish members of the Bundestag are there?

What a joke. Turks are completely excluded from German society. So what if they don't live in highrises. Germany doesn't have highrises. Anywhere.

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