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Victor Davis Hanson writes splendid articles. Thanks for passing it on.

the world is changing and our expectations of the world must change as well. the spot light on europe on the world stage continues to fade, if it has not already gone out. like an old and worn actress playing a role of a voluptuous woman, europe does not understand that she is fat. yet as she continues to clamor for the light, the eyes have shifted east ward.
its just down to histrionics now from europe as a whole.

Does Hanson mean to say that what we hear from our German friends ("It's not America that we hate; it's GW Bush") is a bunch of bunk? Wow, maybe it has to do with the fact that THEY NO LONGER NEED US, and has NOTHING to do with who our president is!!! Although, if we were led by a leftist Democrat, perhaps we would be loved again...

@Kuch: "Does Hanson mean to say that what we hear from our German friends ("It's not America that we hate; it's GW Bush") is a bunch of bunk?"

That pretty much covers it. Erik Svane has a fascinating article on his website at this link:

Erik Svane

It's a very interesting... and all too familiar... read ;).

"There is nothing new under the sun."

@ Kuch

Name me one German (European) that has anything bad to say about Clinton.

Bush says what he means and means what he says. Clinton was just like the Europeans--an appeaser. That's why he's so well liked.

In fairness it should be noted that Japan doesn’t have a large Muslim minority like most European countries. It costs them little to piss of the Muslims. Europeans have to be more careful in their dealings with Muslims.

Our esteemed leader and savior, Reverend Moon, is grateful that you reference our organ of truth: The Washington Times.

I think Hanson's argument overlooks the a crucial point...highlighted by a mistake he made. In the article he claims that "The small countries Denmark and the Netherlands were invaded twice in the last century by the German Reich". This is of course false and Hanson has already posted a correction on his website after I —and likely others— pointed this error out.

I also noted to him that a better example of small countries twice invaded by the German Reich would have been Belgium and Luxembourg; however these examples renders his argument rather otiose as both are now hotbeds for anti-Americanism. Belgium in particular is extremely bad in this regard —the one European country I will never visit again given the disgraceful way I was treated there last summer— even though the U.S. fed nearly the entire population during the brutal German occupation in WWI and liberated the country from the Nazi's in WWII.

So then, I must disagree with Hanson’s argument that closeness and dependency breed warmth and friendship. Rather I think that such dependency breeds sublimated resentment that boils to the surface once the restraining condition is removed.

I agree with VDH in the way he views the global international situation as an important factor in, in this case, German - American relations. What is worrying however that he doesnt mention is the way this sentiment is represented in Germany and the similarity with the imagery of the past. Merely just disagreeing with the US or having changing international interests and priorities does not excuse the media environment in Germany or the lunatic fringe plus with its "Bush is Hitler" rubbish that is covered here at Medienkritik. Whether the German interest currently lies elsewhere, it is surely not in the German interest to have such a hostile one-sided press and the accusations of "locusts" and the bout of conspiracy theories indicate a deeper resentment than just changing interests. so while VDH is correct that "current global strategic realities largely explain their quite different attitudes to America" I fear that the prejudice is far deeper than that.

Robert Kagan concluded the same when he stated: "Europe doesn't need America anymore."


During the American led NATO bombing during the Bosnia conflict, the US felt that it was necessary to force the Serbs to the negotiation table: pressure would come in the form of bombing. France felt that a pause was appropriate. The US pulled rank and pissed off France called the US a hyperpower (not sure who said so exactly). Whatever. France had struggled along with the rest of Europe for 3 years, lost 50 men and was impotent. The peace deal was signed in Dayton, Ohio. Which included, both Bosnia and Serbian Serbs.

The tendancies were always there, Iraq just gave France another chance to be French again.

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