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The irony of this is wonderful. I can almost envision a time when the people of Iraq and the larger ME turn to point their fingers at those who apologized for and rationalized the dictators and terrorists. What do you call it when the people you've condescended to "understand", with great nuance ofcourse, reject your world view and accuse you?

Only time will tell.

--What do you call it when the people you've condescended to "understand", with great nuance ofcourse, reject your world view and accuse you? --

Old Europeans?

Wrong Again?

In an IHT interview from german radio today german defense minister Peter Struck speaks-
http://www.iht.com/articles/510913.html
question by reporter to struck-
Q. "Have you been following with sympathy the change in the Spanish government's foreign and security policy."
Struck: "No." ...
Q. "Do you feel something like a subliminal satisfaction that Spain has now come down on the side of Berlin and Paris?"
Struck: "No. You just can't work with that kind of categorizing, especially in the area of foreign and security policy."
When Schröder and President Jacques Chirac talked about terrorism in Europe after the Madrid bombings the same day, Schröder was careful to point to "trans-Atlantic cooperation" as one of the bulwarks in efforts to head off more attacks. That was hardly the language of Old Europe."
There schroeder is in all his chestnut trussed glory saying that a "relationship" to the US is the key to preventing more attacks on "eu" soil.
That word "relationship" used here in that context- means quite simply "US help". This type of hypocrisy when taken alongside schroeder's demonzing of the US and not wanting to "take part in Bush's adventure" should make people across the world sick.
Schroeder has shattered the relationship into pieces and thus no realtionship currently exists. This guy speaks out of so many sides of his mouth I get dizzy listening to his sophmoric drivel.

>That word "relationship" used here in that context- means quite simply "US help". This type of hypocrisy when taken alongside schroeder's demonzing of the US and not wanting to "take part in Bush's adventure" should make people across the world sick.

Old trick of you. Fact is Schröder did not demonise "the US", but a certain act of a US administration, which was as I agree broadly supported by congress and many other countries, but has not yet turned out to really have solved anything about terrorism. Also, some of the negative results the countries which opposed war at that time, gave as their reasons to try to prevent a war, are by now part of the reality.

>Schroeder has shattered the relationship into pieces and thus no realtionship currently exists.

So Mr. Bush, who just talked about such a relationship is a either liar, or an incompetent fool, or both??

jens- thats all you can come with with for a reply to my comment? Do you have an ability to make a better attempt to dismiss my thoughts, based on any fact?
The iraq war exposed the proliferation of nuke and WMD across the middle east at a level that the shocked ALL in the Intl Community, but not in the US. Now that you know that all these jihad cowards have access to nukes what will YOU or your "flock" do now Jens? Will you and your flock attempt to sit down with bin laden and share a shot of Akvavit or schnapps to promote peace together? Who in the muslim jihad world has offered any peace? Only in spain they claim a current cease fire... to force the spanish govt to adhere to it's commander's directives.
These people want to destroy YOU and the entire western civilization. What is it that makes you fools defend them, criticise the US people, and say not a damn thing about all the issued fatwas looking to blow YOUR brains out and reduce you to a little jen's dust pile? Now al queda tells it's Spainish "cells" to "cease fire" and see if Spain withdraws. Are you people that fucked up that you think this is appropriate in some way?
If I was Zapatero I would say on national TV-
"Al queda WHO the hell are you talking to? Are you threatening Me and MY Spain?" Has he directed any followup comments to the al queda offer of a cease fire?
Bush was asked about the "relationship" after shcroeder was finally permitted to come to the white house.. and after a pause he said- "well, err...yes, um, err, yes we share a sense of humor".
Thats it jens, it was window dressing for the masses. Schroeder said "he wanted no part of Bush's adventure". I wonder then, what brought him to the white house...
What will be done once the bearded freaks blow the living hell out of a berlin train? Will more Akvavit or Schnapps be served, or will the gloves come off and the hunt for the cowards begin?
I know what will happen- you'll call in the assistance of the FBI, the CIA and the young men and woman of the US who you have tried to disgrace and talked your shit towards for so long.
The same people that kept the USSR from snacking on your cold balls for 50 long years.
You people know no shame.

So, Jens - what's your timeline to really solve anything about terrorism?

Yesterday, 9/12? when?

Took us quite a few years to solve some terrorism in your neck of the woods.

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