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When Gerhard Schröder launched the campaign for a German veto in UNSC it wasn´t really about the government of Germany, it was about a veto for Gerhard Schröder. Actually, when the political whore is leaning itself out of the window this is a sign of weakness, since it doesn´t work silently through Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

You really have it in for Steinmeier don't you??

What can one say about Schröder in excess of the parody the man makes of himself? In other words, he's so ridiculous and in love with power and in awe of power, and is such a creep, that he digs his own grave as soon as he opens up his trap. The question was always how many Germans go for this guy. He reminds me of a German actor named Hans Albers in some early '30s German films, who was very popular with German film fans, whose behavior was absolutely nauseatingly immoral in the films I'm speaking of and whose motto was he was always proud of it, didn't give a damn what others thought -- somehow this idiot embodied a type of man whom Germans liked then and do like now perhaps: "forsch" in the worst sense. Schröder so turns me off and does it so completely that one almost has no comment to make about him -- what he says and is speaks so eloquently about himself.

Couldn't agree more re Schroeder, makes my skin crawl too. Seeing him as an ex-leader of a country only makes sense when you consider George Bush. Looks like the Germans have more in common with the US than most contributors would like to acknowledge, a penchant for electing self seeking and/or immoral leaders for one.

Mike: To see if the comparison w Sellout Schroeder and Dubya is a valid one, look to see where Dubya gets his paycheck after he leaves office next year. If he draws money from some Saudi sponsors, you may have a point.

Otherwise, I for one am unable to see the comparison. Perhaps you should elaborate.

Could Herta the Harridan be of assistance in making a comparison of Dubya to other leaders?

Mike, nice case of BDS. Nice segue too. When you get up in the morning, do you immediately think of three nasty things to prep yourself for the day? Those three nasty things, do they have anything to do with the leadership of a foreign nation? BDS, CheneyDS, GatesDS, PetraeusDS et al.? Have you conditioned yourself to throw a tantrum when you think of the nasty things? Inquiring minds want to know.

BTW, I didn't know that W had been threatening Australia. What's the real source for the animosity?

C'mon huys, let's be honest, there's not anyone less honest than Bush, and that's got nothing to do with waking up with three nasty things to say. Where will his pay check come from, oh I dunno, maybe one of any number of companies involved in rebuilding Iraq. I'm not anti US, but you can't throw crap and cry foul when some comes back.
For the record I own a number of restaurants that are an American Franchised chain that has an arch as a symbol, I've got no beef with Americans(pun intended). In fact I have relatives in Montana, New York, Chicago and Illinois.We plan on revisiting the US again next year ,I love the place to be honest, but bullshit is bullshit in any language. What's old dubya done to Australia, not much thank god,but what really amazes most Australians and I guess the world in general, is how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone.
The worlds only superpower run by a fool, before anyone makes any judgements about other countries, in this case Germany, maybe a bit of self critique might be in order.Schroeder is no doubt right in the pocket of Putin and probably always was, I can't stand the creepy little smirking twit, but, he is not alone by a long shot.We had Cheney over here not long ago and you could be mistaken for thinking he was related to Schroeder.
Now I certainly hope none of this comes across as tantrum throwing as I am merely expressing a sentiment that that people in glass houses.......

Mike
but what really amazes most Australians and I guess the world in general, is how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone.

He was the lesser of two weevils.

We had Cheney over here not long ago and you could be mistaken for thinking he was related to Schroeder.

Really? How so? (this should be good)

C'mon huys, let's be honest, there's not anyone less honest than Bush,
Examples, please.
how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone
As Pamela points out: so you would have preferred Al Gore or JFKerry?

"how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone" Mike

We voted for him. It's surprising as all get out but the guy who has the most votes normally wins. We, of course, are voting for the electors. They do have a sense of our intent since they're from our locales.

You might take into consideration that we take a dim view of fanatics flying passenger planes into our buildings in order to make their point. We suddenly construct points of our own.

Saddam was one of those who gave the impression that he also wanted to make a point, witness Kuwait.

Mike Mike Mike...

When you say "C'mon huys, let's be honest, there's not anyone less honest than Bush..." and "is how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone." and "The worlds only superpower run by a fool" is, I feel, blatant evidence of YOUR dishonesty. Your use of hyperbole demonstrates that you aren't really interested in "honesty". If you were to calm down from your BDS you would have to agree that calling someone a moron and a fool would require some demonstrable evidence for your assertions in order for your claim to be anything other than ranting.

You are clearly trying to claim the moral highground in this discussion ("The worlds only superpower run by a fool, before anyone makes any judgements about other countries, in this case Germany, maybe a bit of self critique might be in order"). In order to have any claim on the "moral highground", you would have to be willing to present your argument factually and separate opinion from fact.

I could claim that you are a fool and a moron and you are indistinguishable from some disreputable German - but I would be behaving dishonestly if I stated this as fact rather than my opinion.

If you want to insist on claiming this "moral highground" perhaps a bit of self critique might be in order.

No, your comments didn't come across as "tantrum throwing" nor the expression of a sentiment "that that people in glass houses....... ". It came across as intellectually dishonest.


With regard to Mike in Australia: Let's face it: nobody has a good idea how George W. Bush will look in a few years' time, whether he will be seen as a "fool" or not quite so bad as you're implying. I think the BDS has really got hold of your reasoning. You should calm down about old George W. Bush for a spell.
What I think is interesting, by the way, about this reaction to the Russians re: the Georgia crisis is how the Germans are reacting. One half of the political elite objects to the Russians' actions, mainly Merkel and a few cohorts. The other part, led by Steinmeier as its main powerful mouthpiece and by Schröder as its blatant propagandist, is only worried about German business interests and "partnership" with Russia. I must say I find the Germans, again, as being prone to respecting an obvious immoral policy or at least barking it out as a policy to be followed. I don't know whether this is really a tradition and is what is meant when Bismarck coined the phrase "realpolitik." There is a tendency, though, in German foreign policy to try to act in so obviously a selfish and immoral way, or at least in a way that alarms its European neighbors very easily -- see the Eastern European nations, the British and possibly the French, too, if Steinmeier keeps up his Lavrov schmoozing -- which is due to what I said before about Schröder. Many Germans seem to go for this way of doing politics and foreign policy. It has to do with what I said about the actor Hans Albers, who was a German movie star in the early '30s, and what the word "forsch" means. I find this type of foreign policy moves pretty distressing, and it's dismaying, too, how the Germans say "Europe" when they so obviously mean only Germany. I'm sure there will be more about this to follow. It's not as though the United States has no investment and factories in Russia, but the German business interests are so quick to yell about being "helpless" with regard to Russia that you wonder whether American business interests would get so immediate a forum in the mainstream American media and try to dictate U.S. foreign policy like the German business interests seem to be able to do.

Just to preclude anybody saying that I believe American business interests have nothing to do with U.S. foreign policy. That is not what I am saying at all. Of course they do! What I mean, though, is that the manner in which OBVIOUS AND VERY VOCAL German business interests and their German government spokespeople are distorting German responses to Russia's attack on Georgia is dragging down any coherent European responses to it and all that it entails. Sabotaging a coherent European response is fairly unparalleled as to what American businesses and business organizations are able to dictate as to what is written in mainstream American media. Yet this is happening in front of our eyes in the German mainstream media, if you're reading it at all, and is in contrast to British and American media reporting about the crisis. That was my point, and NOT that business interests never dictate policy in either America or elsewhere. The media in Germany is so distorted by this.

Mike says: "what really amazes most Australians and I guess the world in general, is how in blazes did you guys end up with such a morone."

Me; It is always instructive and fun to see the lemming like sameness of modern progressive liberals worldwide. Mike (from australia?) fits perfectly into the NYTimes/ Pauline Kael claque of, "I don't know how he got elected... nobody I know voted for him!"
Granted it is a rather large bubble, but a bubble none-the-less!

PS: Mike, always bad form to mis-spell the word "moron" when you are attempting to disparage the intelligence of another.

@Texas Blueblood - To get an idea what Steinmeier is for Merkel, imagine Reagan would have had to work with Carter as SecState.

Let's get back to the topic of this blog, the media. The US MSM has been doing what it does best the last couple of days, reminding me, "mit aller Gewalt," why I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain. Their smearing and tabloidization of Palin has been, "mit Abstand," the most abject, disgusting thing I've seen in this long, abject, disgusting election campaign. I really can't watch the likes of CNN and MSNBC anymore for more than a few minutes without becoming nauseous, but I must have glanced at their "election coverage," ten or a dozen times since Palin was announced, and every single time it was some moron reporter asking some politician whether Palin had been properly vetted (the a priori assumption in such a question being, of course, that she has done something wrong or immoral), or the even viler tactic of exchanging pious platitudes about how family affairs, such as her 17 year old daughter's pregnancy, "shouldn't matter." Mind you, the same reporters kept on mouthing exactly the same platitudes constantly, for hours on end, as long as they were on the air. The goal here, of course, is to tabloidize Palin, and preempt any serious consideration of her record or political point of view - to insure that she is not taken seriously. The constant association of Palin with Eagleton and, of course, Dan Quayle, whom the MSM succeeded in assassinating politically using the same tactics they are now using against Palin, is just another variant of the same game. I have to feel a sense of vicarious shame for the "reporters" who were chosen to execute this particular element of the smear campaign. It must have been incredibly boring to keep it up for so long. How anyone can watch that sort of thing for more than a few minutes and still fail to see the slant is truly beyond me.

To anyone who doubts the value of Foxnews, talk radio, and powerful bloggers on the right, all I can say is, watch and learn. Foxnews is as slanted to the right as the MSM is slanted to the left, but their news anchors are no idiots, and they saw right through the charade immediately. I don't think I've ever seen them more genuinely outraged than they were this morning, and well they should be. I disagree with the Republicans and the right in the US about many things, but whenever I see such lying, mendacious tricks, it always reminds me why I tend to vote for them. It has characterized the political behavior of the left in America for many years, decades in fact. One can only hope that, at some point, they will recover some semblance of a sense of common decency. Until that day comes, I, for one, will refrain from voting for them.

Helian:

Fred Thompson made what I think is a good point this morning. He said much of this 'vetting' focus by the media is because THEY were caught flat-footed. She hadn't been properly vetted by THEM because they didn't know she was on the list and if they didn't know she was on the list then she COULDN'T have been on the list, therefore it was a last-minute google-search vetting procedure. As for Fox, I'd like to point out the hatchet job Alan Colmes tried to do to Palin on his blog. To my great disappointment, altho O'Reilly, et. al., were quick to take DailyKos to task for their smear of Palin (for European readers - they maintained that Sarah's most recent baby, Trig, was really her daughter Bristol's child, fathered by Sarah's husband Todd) - there was absolutely no mention on Fox about what Colmes had written.

And it's not just the cable channels. Check out this 'correction' in today's NYT.

Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member

The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.

The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.

On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.

After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention.

Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd, was a former member of the party.

Parse this for a moment. The New York Times printed hearsay as fact - and never tried to corroborate. Yet, it's the 'party officer' in error. And in the correction, they did the exact same thing. TODD PALIN is now noted has having been a member of the party - and the NYT accepts this at face value from the same person they heard this crap from before again with no corroboration.

Disgust doesn't even come close. And people wonder why NYT's stock price is tanking.

I have a reading recommendation for you.

The Terminal Spy

It's about the assasination of Alexander Litvinenko in London via polonium-210. It makes some assertions about the possible sources of polonium-21 in the old USSR that I'm trying to cross-check against One Point Safe. When I'm finished (lack of useful indices is not helping) I'm going to email you with some questions.

Pamela,

Via Instapundit, I see that even the lefties at the "New Republic" are starting to get weak stomachs:

The case against the case against Palin.

Also via Instapundit,

Was Biden vetted?

Nice touch. Obviously not everyone out there is brain dead when it comes to getting the point of these “vetting” questions.

I just got a freebie with my Amazon card, so will definitely have a look at “Terminal Spy.”

Whoops, "moron" spelling was a typo, in a bit of a hurry. Only just got a chance to look at the blog and I am overwhelmed (amazed) that there was such a flurry of responses to support Mr Bush. I will explain the analogies between Bush and Schroeder next posting, unfortunately time does not allow a response today.

Mike, before expounding on the analogies between Bush and Schroeder please make certain of the optical clarity of the magnifying glass(MSM) that you're using to inspect Bush.

The MSM in case you're interested, is tanking in public opinion in the US. I believe that the MSM in your country is not too far behind the American MSM in BDS. The MSM in Germany, as David and Ray are reporting, is in the same boat as yours and ours.

Mike H., it has now been six days since Mike the Aussie told us he would expand on his Bush=Schroeder equation, and nearly two weeks since he first made the claim. My guess is that he made the claim off the top of his head, which is not uncommon in blog comments, and now that he has been requested to back up his claim, is finding it more difficult to do so than he initially thought.

Here are some comparisons off the top of my head. Please correct them if I am mistaken.
Both fathers in WW2. GS father killed, GWB father survived.
GS: pulled himself up by bootstraps. GWB: born on third base.(Re Ann Richard's line that Daddy Bush was born on third base, and thought he hit a triple.)
GS: attorney. GWB: MBA
GS: married four times. GWB:married once.
GS: employee of enormous foreign oil company after leaving office. GWB:before assuming office, failed entrepreneur of small domestic oil company.
GS: speaks only German. GWB: speaks English and Spanish.
GS: accepts award from Middle East tyrant(Syria). GWB:topples and has killed Middle East tyrant ( Iraq).
GS: attacked US to help win re-election. GWB: attacked US Democrats to help win re-election.
GS: defends Russia, a foreign country. GWB: defends USA, his own country.

GringoTex, the only thing that I found that might be different is a piece from a bio, "In 1986, after a sudden collapse in the price of oil, Bush arranged for Spectrum to be sold to Harken Energy for a bargain price. He later sold his original stock shares and made a considerable profit." Credit - Bush biography at Biography.com.

The rest of your comment is as stated, in my opinion.

@Gringo Tex

Not to steal your thunder, but:

GS: German PM who pushes through legislation of underwater North Sea pipeline between Russian and Germany. Who prompltly leaves office to work for the Russian state owned (after throwing the owner in the Gulag for "tax evasion charges"-- yet to have trial) GOZPROM. And not a german blinks an eye.

Your wasting your time on this site.

@Buckeye Abroad

" And not a german blinks an eye."

Either you don't know how to use Google (you can limit results to german ones) or you didn't bother to check if your claim is right or you are lying.

@Chrisimo
Well, off course Buckeye is exaggerating but tell me where was/is the big uproar in germany that this should have caused?
The only thing that happenend to Schroeder is that he is more or less ignored at the moment by the german media but I wouldn't wonder if in a couple of years you would see his stupid smirk again in every second talkshow.
Just think what a similar incident in the USA would have caused (especially in germany, as german media seems to be more interested in american scandals than their own).

Sorry not to have responded yet, I most certainly will, but business predominates. Once I have had time to put the response together I will post it, as god forbid that there may be an error that this august group could jump on if it was a rushed spontaneous retort.

just read on drudge that the speigel has declared american capitalism dead, any thoughts?

Mike@0627, "as god forbid that there may be an error that this august group could jump on if it was a rushed spontaneous retort.", yes, but isn't that what you're looking for too? ;)

My suggestion for the coming months: How about a "SCHRÖDER-STEINMEIER WATCH"? If there is a revival of this form of politics in Germany, and a popularity for it among the population, a renaissance of Steinmeier and Schröder for a German Third Way or Sonderweg, if this is seen as a viable alternative for Germany, then what we're seeing may be the end of the European Union and certainly deep trouble for the transatlantic relationship. References to cite are this week's cover of DER SPIEGEL, this week's NEWSWEEK with regard to the Schröder/Steinmeier revival, also read John Vinocur's article "Imagining a Germany in middle of the road" in the HERALD TRIBUNE, published on Sept. 16, as well as Judy Dempsey's reporting about Schröder "urging Europe to warm to Moscow" published on Sept. 18. What is coming now?

@playertwo
just read on drudge that the speigel has declared american capitalism dead, any thoughts?

They wish.

Here's what's going on. There was a post-Enron accounting rule change called 'mark to market'. Enron had some assets on the books that they valued according to what they 'thought' they would sell for 'down the road'. When people looked at the actual value of the assets, they decided that method was inflating the value of those assets.

'Mark to market' means that you must value assets according to what they would sell for TODAY.

When your assets are derivative financial instruments based on subprime mortgage debts and the market for those dries up, those assets must be valued at zero - 'cuz you can't sell 'em

Everybody's books just imploded.

What Paulson is doing is buying up all that paper - and CREATING A MARKET for them. There ARE underlying assets of value there - the houses. That paper is going to be auctioned. I don't yet know the terms of the auction will be.

People may actually make money on this. We'll see.

@svetov
then what we're seeing may be the end of the European Union

See! There's a silver lining in everything!

@Pamela. "End of the European Union." There's a silver lining in everything!

That is a consolation, come to think of it.

""End of the European Union." There's a silver lining in everything!"
I realize that there's humor involved but I would rather see an impotent EU than a replacement satellite for Putin. If we lose the drilling fight in the US then he will continue to have too much money to throw around.

@chrisimo

"Either you don't know how to use Google (you can limit results to german ones) or you didn't bother to check if your claim is right or you are lying."

Sorry for the late reply, life and responsibilities take away time to apparently "prove things" to you.

A link: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1949349,00.html

I google quite well, however I have been residing in Deutschland since 2001, spent a few years even before that in the 1990s, and I haven't heard anything in the german press that comes close to (article) "His acceptance of the job less than a month after he left the chancellor's office last November prompted widespread criticism in Germany." What criticism? You google and prove it to me, because I didn't find much. Actually, the silence was deafening.

Gerhardt is a bought and paid for whore, but who cares. I am always amazed out the levels of hypocracy here.

@Buckeye Abroad

Hey Buckeye! Long time no talk to, how are you?

ok, this bit:

Gerhardt is a bought and paid for whore

I beg to differ.

Gerhardt is a bought and paid for pimp. Europe is the whore.

@GringtoTex

Actually GWB invested $800,000 in the Texas Rangers baseball team and made $12 million. Hardly an unsuccessful entrepreneur.

Being a Texan you ought to know that "the only way to make a small fortune in the oil business was to start with a large fortune"..

Common Texas joke circa 1980s.

Oh I almost forgot. This is a bit off-topic but I wanted to share my joy with my fellow EU haters. Check out the link to watch the Euro die before your very eyes.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?symbol=%2FEURUS

reload the page every three minutes to watch it slip closer to zero.

TX Blueblood:
@GringoTex
Actually GWB invested $800,000 in the Texas Rangers baseball team and made $12 million. Hardly an unsuccessful entrepreneur.

Most of the appreciation of his holdings in the Rangers came from the building of a taxpayer-subsidized stadium. While to some that may be an indication of being a successful entrepreneur, I see it as successfully manipulating the government for one's own benefit. Yes, he made his money, but I do not respect him for the way in which he made it. I voted third-party in 2000 because I did not approve of the way that Dubya profited in his Rangers' investment. By 2004 there were more important criteria for deciding how to vote.

Being a Texan you ought to know that "the only way to make a small fortune in the oil business was to start with a large fortune"..Common Texas joke circa 1980s.
All too well. Dubya fared no worse than most in that era. One exception to the rule: I once worked for someone who, with some partners, had bought out some unexploited leases at the bottom of the bust,and some years later sold them at considerable profit. But neither Dubya nor I are as astute as that individual. It is a sad commentary on our system that instead of attracting people as bright as my former boss, politics attracts buffoons. Could Biden or Kerry even manage a Dairy Queen?

@Pamela

I'm ok Pam-- nose to the grind stone yada, yada... Getting ready to launch a project in Eastern Europe that might end in tears for our stockholders, but there you go. How are you? Would love to correspond about things, so drop me a quick email sometime.

Thanks for the correction. Pimp would describe Gerhardt better. I do for sorry for those held in bondage though.

"just read on drudge that the speigel has declared american capitalism dead, any thoughts?"

Yes, today I am declaring Der Speigel dead, or at least a publication so severely lacking in credibility that it should be dead, preferably by suicide.

How many more incorrect predictions does "the mirror" need to make before you feel like an indoctrinated fool being spoonfed lies by looking into it?

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the biggest liar of them all?

Mike the Aussie: I will explain the analogies between Bush and Schroeder next posting, unfortunately time does not allow a response today. (Sept 5)

As five weeks have now passed, it would appear that Mike the Aussie is unable or unwilling to spend five minutes in explaining "the analogies between Bush and Schroeder." He apparently made an off-the-cuff statement he was unable to back up. I would say you owe us either 1) an explanation of "the analogies between Bush and Schroeder," or 2) an apology for having made such an unsupported statement.

Rushing to Mike´s help, let me suggest that the analogy between Schröder and Bush is that both are as bland as the mascot of his employer.

I have only one word for the Shredder: DRECK!

How dare you compare. Compared with him, GWB is GOLD, pure GOLD!

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