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First of all Aayn has declared she no longer considers herself a Muslim - and she didn't leave, she was kicked out. I can't speak to whether or not Rushdie and Tibi consider themselves Muslim.

But let's look at a male 'Euro-Muslim' Europe has been able to hang on to. Tariq Ramadan. After the London Tube bombings he wrote:

I n the name of the rule of law, democracy and human rights, we cannot accept that the rights of individuals (Arab or Muslim) be trampled upon, or that populations are targeted and discriminated against in the name of the war against terrorism. The strength of democratic societies relies on their capacity to know how to stand firm against extremism while respecting justice in the means used to fight terrorism.
Criminals, no doubt, will continue to kill, but we shall be able to respond to them by demonstrating that our experience of human brotherhood and mutual respect is stronger than their message of hate.

And as far as the U.S. is concerned, you can bloody well keep him.

He has praised the brutal Islamist policies of the Sudanese politician Hassan Al-Turabi. Mr. Turabi in turn called Mr. Ramadan the "future of Islam."
Mr. Ramadan was banned from entering France in 1996 on suspicion of having links with an Algerian Islamist who had recently initiated a terrorist campaign in Paris.
Ahmed Brahim, an Algerian indicted for Al-Qaeda activities, had "routine contacts" with Mr. Ramadan, according to a Spanish judge (Baltasar Garzón) in 1999.
Djamel Beghal, leader of a group accused of planning to attack the American embassy in Paris, stated in his 2001 trial that he had studied with Mr. Ramadan.
Along with nearly all Islamists, Mr. Ramadan has denied that there is "any certain proof" that Bin Laden was behind 9/11.
He publicly refers to the Islamist atrocities of 9/11, Bali, and Madrid as "interventions," minimizing them to the point of near-endorsement.
[]Intelligence agencies suspect that Mr. Ramadan (along with his brother Hani) coordinated a meeting at the Hôtel Penta in Geneva for Ayman al-Zawahiri, deputy head of Al-Qaeda, and Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh, now in a Minnesota prison.
Mr. Ramadan's address appears in a register of Al Taqwa Bank, an organization the State Department accuses of supporting Islamist terrorism.
Then there is the intriguing possibility, reported by Olivier Guitta, that Osama bin Laden studied with Tariq's father in Geneva, suggesting that the future terrorist and the future scholar might have known each other.

a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2043" target="_blank">As Lee Smith writes in The American Prospect, he is a cold-blooded Islamist whose "cry of death to the West is a quieter and gentler jihad, but it's still jihad."

It's not just that Europe no longer has any cultural confidence. Europe has no moral compass. Rita Verdonk left Hirsi Ali vulnerable to judicial murder by fiat. The outcry was not from any sense of moral outrage but from societal embarassment.

I remember reading a story about a wealthy French commoner who built his own palace, copied on Versaille. He wanted it to be authentic in every way. So he had his servants pee in all the corners, because that's how he thought people relieved themselves in Versaille.

That's Europe.


That's very interesting. I don't know any statistics, but I personally know a Turkish guy that just finished a Phd in electronics engineering (communications, specializing in mesh networking, which is one of the hottest fields right now) in Maryland and can't get a job. He says he likes the US, would love to stay there, but because people think Turkey is an Arab country they are hesitant to hire him. He sent out about a thousand applications now.

On my floor a young woman from Iran just moved in. From her apperance and her accent I thought she was from the US and I asked her why she came to Germany (no question why she left Iran with 50% unemployment) and not the US, because her English is perfect and they have a much better job situation and there are many communities in the US where an immigrant can feel at home. She said she would, but there is no way in hell she would get a visa, because she is from Iran. Now she has to learn German...

@Pamela
You would love to round them all up and put them in Camps, just like the Japanese in WWII, wouldn't you? And I am sure there are many toilet mishaps from wealthy Americans, but who the *+#§$ wants to hear them? As far as Europe is concerned, you can bloody well shut up.

That's a European.

Note from David: Pamela, you're my favorite commentor here. As long as you keep angering left-wing Europeans, keep going...
As to the poor Turkish chap who had sent out "about a thousand applications" (must be a world record), he may want to have a look here.

Sorry, maybe not all here actually know German. The very first thing the Iranian woman came up with was the fact that we have three words for "the". Every noun has one of three genders. A lot to learn...

Interesting article which highlights a reason for the US to keep sticking up for Europe. The EU serves as a useful filter, trapping the lazy who want lots of social services without working too hard but actively expelling the hard working, entrepreneurs and innovators who are the biggest prizes in the migration game.

Thanks EU!

I wish the turkish fellow luck in his job search and recommend that he put in his "other" section a mention of volunteer work for the B'nai Brith and see if that nets him an interview or two. Then again, perhaps he has other issues with his resume.

One thing that is fact is the euros do know something about camps, and rail transportation too.

"Now she has to learn German..."

Exactly.


Interesting that unemployment in the US is at 4.4%. So this one turk might have trouble finding a job, interesting. Lots of todays jobs in new fields require both background checks as well as security clearances. Might be a bit hard to obtain if you are turkish and very expensive for the employer.

Of course, coming to the US to live and work is not a right.

Germany should be happy. This young woman can be a replacement for some German who has already moved on.

UBetcha
You would love to round them all up and put them in Camps

You know what? Europeans can be excellent teachers. They taught my people more than you can imagine about 'camps'.

Shabbat Shalom

For some reason I can't comment any more. I guess I shouldn't write the wrong stuff, because then I get censored. I don't really know how, but I think this censorship is the most revealing thing about this blog that could be. You would love to censor the German media instead of critizising it, wouldn't you? To hell with the first amendment. That is the most Un-American thing I can think of. But very fitting. This webpage is not about Medienkritik at all. It is a forum where right wing nutjobs can bitch about anything, especially Germany.

Note from David: U, you should have read our comment policy (right column). You have no publication rights in this blog. We reserve the right to block your - actually anybody's - comments whenever we feel they don't live up to the quality our readers expect. You are on a "hold for approval" status. I approved one of your comments, and I blocked another one.
BTW, to assume that I violate your first amendment rights by not allowing you to publish your comments in my blog is hilarious!
Our comment policy is standard policy EVERYWHERE: in right-wing blogs, left-wing blogs, at SPIEGEL Online, etc., etc. Some blogs (Instapundit) don't accept any comments at all.
You don't like our policy? That's too bad... But, hey, here's help: how about starting your own blog? Let me know about it asap - I can't wait to comment on your blog.

@Ubetcha

"I don't know any statistics, but I personally know a Turkish guy that just finished a Phd in electronics engineering (communications, specializing in mesh networking, which is one of the hottest fields right now) in Maryland and can't get a job."

I know germans who have sent over 1000 applications in Germany and cannot get a job. Something to do with being over 50 or out of the workforce to long....

"He says he likes the US, would love to stay there, but because people think Turkey is an Arab country they are hesitant to hire him."

Alot of people like the US and want to stay there. I know turks aren't Arabs, but I saw this great film just recenlty produced called "Valley of the Wolves" which was the most expensive turkish film ever made. Perhaps you heard of it?

Also the Pope is going to Turkey this month and we know how turks love to target their anger on the pontiff (or Armenians, Greeks, etc..). Perhaps I'm just shooting from the hip, but we'll see.

"Thats a European"

Inshallah

"The very first thing the Iranian woman came up with was the fact that we have three words for "the". Every noun has one of three genders. A lot to learn..."

I'm sure she will pull through like the rest of us did. Noch ein paar Jahre, es kommt sehr einfach.

@Pamela

G-d bless.

I am a big fan of Nobel economic winner, James Buchanan. What I best like about him, and what he started is called “Public Choice” theory. It comes down to,

A. Follow the Money.
B. The purpose of a person, family, organization is the prosperity and growth of that person/organization.

The purpose of socialistic governments in Europe is their( the government's ) health and wealth. The citizens and even the nation state itself is secondary. They are becoming like royalty and the citizens serfs. Have you ever noticed that bureaucrats, from different countries, like each other better than their own citizens? Much like the old royalty. One cousin Queen of England, the other King of Hanover, the other the Tsar.

This same phenomenon of secular, bureaucratic government workers, leaders, unions and ancillaries can be seen in more older, more socialistic cites and states in the US. For example the old textile mill cities of Massachusetts, Lowell and Lawrence. At one time in the 1800 these were miracle, modern, world leader cities in fabric technologies, mill machinery and so forth. Today they are holding pens for illegal immigrants. The economy is the workers in the state social services. Naturally these workers want more immigrants and push politically for more money and immigrants. Not that the immigrants get the money. The immigrants are a form of crop, to be harvested. Their names, bodies and soles are brought before the state treasury and money is extracted.

Naturally taxes have to be raised, so young people and small businesses flee the state. Overall the population of the US continues to increase. Massachusetts is in a slow population decline in absolute numbers. This decline is even worse, because as I said, young poor jobless immigrants come in, extract welfare, and productive citizens leave. What are left are the immigrants on welfare, the state workers in the welfare agencies and the elderly who also need services. Some of these cities have gone bankrupt because the existing taxpayers no longer exist.

This phenomenon is also seen in the old industrial states of Michigan and New York.

The comments about Germany and Europe are more fundamental, and cross national boundaries and time.

A nice simple introduction to Public Choice Theory here,

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/PublicChoiceTheory.html

Carl, what a great site! Thanks!

UBetcha: "She said she would, but there is no way in hell she would get a visa, because she is from Iran"

If you've quoted her correctly, it appears that she didn't even try. FYI, there are many Iranians in the US, even from after the Khomenhi takeover. But if she didn't try, she needs to stay in Germany. People who won't try don't get very far in the US.

UBetcha: "You would love to round them all up and put them in Camps, just like the Japanese in WWII, wouldn't you?"

Where on earth did you get THIS idea from anything Pamela said???

LC M PJs, "Where on earth did you get THIS idea from anything Pamela said???"

Reference his reply to David wherein he showed his total lack of knowlege and understanding of the first amendment. Also a lack of understanding of where the Medenkritik originates and what laws are applicable in that venue. I believe that he also has a problem with the fact that the Germans wrote their own constitution and are therefore not governed by ours.

Interestingly, the unemployment rate in the United States is 4.4%. While the turkey can be difficult to find meaningful employment. Many of today's jobs in new areas requires background checks and security clearance. Maybe a little difficult if you are Turkish and very expensive for the employer.
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